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One Piece 1133-135 Manga Recap

By January 5, 2025No Comments52 min read
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One Piece 1133-1135 are here, and we’re ready to talk about all three chapters on Rookie Pirate Radio, a podcast dedicated to the world of anime and manga. This week, Jon Negroni (me) and Travis Hymas discuss the three most recent chapters of the One Piece manga, titled “Nice Things,” “The Owl Library,” and “Friends’ Cups.” One Piece 1133-1135 are currently available to read for free on Viz. And you can also read an edited transcript of our conversation below!

We want your feedback! If you have any questions, corrections, or your own theories and speculation, you can either email us (rookiepirateradio@gmail.com) or join our Discord, where we have a special channel devoted to all things One Piece spoilers! We’ll be back to discuss the next chapter after it comes out, but in the meantime, be sure to subscribe to Rookie Pirate Radio on your favorite podcast app, so you can stay up to date on all our releases.

Extra Credits:

Our intro music is a remix version of “Overtaken” from the One Piece anime, cut together by Jon Negroni. Our podcast artwork is by Jon Negroni. Travis Hymas is the Anime & Manga editor of InBetweenDrafts, and Jon Negroni is the Film Editor of InBetweenDrafts. Our recap of One Piece 1133-1135 is based on the English translation of the manga, courtesy of Viz. In case you didn’t know already, Eiichiro Oda is the creator of One Piece. Plus, we’re not just a One Piece podcast by the way! If you have a manga or anime you’d like us to cover or mention on the show, definitely reach out.

Transcript for One Piece 1133-1135 (Spoilers!):

Jon Negroni
You’re listening to Rookie Pirate Radio, the official anime and manga podcast for InBetweenDrafts.com. I’m Jon Negroni.

Travis Hymas
And I’m Travis Hymas.

Jon Negroni
And today we’re doing a manga recap of One Piece chapters 1133 through 1135. That’s right, three chapters for the price of one Rookie Pirate Radio episode as we are catching up this week. And Travis, can I just say: new year, new format, apparently.

Travis Hymas
A new year, a new format, indeed. We’re definitely giving a bonus gift to you, the listener, by getting to listen to us talk about even more One Piece all at once.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, the gift is that we put out an episode, I guess. So we’ll get into that. As usual, we’re going to be discussing spoilers to the One Piece manga up until this point. So if you’ve not yet read all the way up to and through One Piece 1135, be sure to do so now for free on the Viz website or the Shonen Jump app linked in the show notes as always. And remember, all new One Piece chapters are available to read for free up to three weeks after their official release—or whenever you want—if you’re subscribed to Shonen Jump, which we are and do recommend. Yeah, so Travis, we’ve been doing this show…

Travis Hymas
Hahahaha!

Jon Negroni
Since 1071, I think was the first One Piece chapter we ever did. So it’s been a couple of years now and we don’t usually—we’ve never done three chapters in one. We’ve never missed that much time, but December was a bit of a rocky port, if you will.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, had a bit of an incident that occurred off-screen that we will not revisit and will only do in our own SBS, maybe in like six months if you write us a letter.

Jon Negroni
Unless we have an extended flashback episode that’s anime-only, and it’s an arc that has nothing to do with… yeah, yeah. Remember December 2024?

Travis Hymas
Yeah, if we come up with the need to fill some time for some reason, then maybe I guess we could squeeze it in, but I don’t know, schedule’s looking tight.

Jon Negroni
Let’s also say, we had a few listeners be like, “You know what this is? This is the most roundabout advertisement for the Discord yet because this is just Jon and Travis trying to get people to miss Rookie Pirate Radio so much they had no choice but to join the Discord server so that they could hang out with us there.” And maybe they’re right. Maybe that is what we were doing intentionally. I don’t know for sure. But if you do want to hang out with us in the Discord anyway—even if, you know, once you’re done being upset and you forgive us—and of course we apologize for our spy methods…

But the Discord server is wonderful because you can find the One Piece Spoilers channel where you can hang out with us, those of us who are caught up on the manga, and then we have other channels too. I’m forgetting what they are, Travis, and by forgetting I mean I’m hopelessly lazy.

Travis Hymas
Hopelessly lazy. Well, you know, we have channels dedicated to everything that InBetweenDrafts.com covers. That’s not just anime and manga but also books, film, TV, video games. Sometimes we’ll spin up special channels for things, and of course all of the other podcasts put out as well, which you should definitely check out if you like this one.

And you can chat with us. You can join the agenda to get us to actually put out a Jujutsu Kaisen episode. I feel like we’re going to have a revolt in there soon, so make sure that you go plant your flag. And of course, that’s a good segue to the Pizza Wars channel, where you can plant your flag for either Domino’s or Pizza Hut—or something that actually tastes like pizza.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, speaking of, you know, wars, you know, violence, you know, kind of a theme of these chapters, right? You know, strength in the midst of peace, that kind of thing. But yes, thank you, of course, all of you who are already on the Discord. We love you so much. And if you want to support the show, one other quick thing you can do is—we’ve been getting some more five-star ratings on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Thank you to everybody who’s done that in the last year. It helps us out quite a bit. If you haven’t done it yet, still super much appreciated. But we don’t want to belabor it any longer because we’ve got a lot.

Three chapters to get into, Travis. The format we’re going to do for this to try to streamline things—and yes, obviously our email of course, if you want to email us: rookiepirateradio@gmail.com. One more time, obviously, because Travis loves it: rookiepirateradio@gmail.com. Don’t forget to tell your parents. The three chapters we’re talking about—we’re just going to do a couple of shorter, you know, ish recaps of the first two and then we’re going to do a normal recap of 1135 because that is the latest.

Travis Hymas
Perfect.

Jon Negroni
So if you are binging all of these at once, yes, we aren’t going to be going too much in detail on those other two chapters. We are going to focus a lot on 1135, I predict, but that’s okay, I think, because, yeah, they came out a while ago. So without further ado—and also, Travis, can you help me out with the cover story for 1133 before we do the recap for 1133? What’s going on here?

Travis Hymas
Sure can, sure can. We are continuing the “Ogre Child Yamato’s Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage.” This is volume 20. We’ve been at this for a while. But we seem to have discovered at least a current thief behind some of the shenanigans going on in the land of Wano. Holdem has defeated Speed and is holding Tama hostage and basically telling Yamato, “Drop it or I’m gonna cut this kid.” It’s kind of a “bring it all back around” as Holdem reenters the story. And we’ve got a moment of tension for once in this cover story. I know a lot of people have complained about that.

Jon Negroni
Hmm. My only little caveat is I don’t know if—my thing is I don’t think Holdem defeated Speed. My thinking here is it’s a sucker punch kind of situation, right? I mean, it looks like Speed probably didn’t, you know, just got hit and, you know, her guard was down, that kind of thing. That’ll come to play in another, you know—

Travis Hymas
Yeah, that’s fair. More sucker punches, we’ll be revisiting that concept soon.

Jon Negroni
Yeah. So we start off with a bit of a flashback. You know, we’re seeing like after Ohara’s destruction, how the world was labeling Robin as a demon, you know, pinning all the blame on just this eight-year-old girl and turning her into a hunted fugitive. And despite almost giving up, almost getting to that point, Robin still kept going, you know, getting a lot of Enies Lobby sort of vibes here, you know. We see that what keeps her going really are her memories of her mother, but then also Saul.

So that’s when, of course, we fast-forward to the present and we see the Straw Hats, you know, finally kind of like they’ve all sort of arrived together in Elbaf. They’re all kind of marveling at what’s going on. You know, Elbaf itself, they’re having the welcome-to-the-new-island moment. We have a little bit of a reconnection with Hajrudin and his crew. So there’s a nice little, you know, the Straw Hat Grand Fleet lives on.

But the real emotional punch, of course, is that Robin finally reunites with Saul. The whole prank thing was just that. It was just a prank of Saul trying to be like, “Yeah,” like when they first met and everything. We’ve learned how Saul survived Ohara in kind of a weird twist, but not even a twist, but just a classic Oda sort of thing. And yeah, this reunion—I mean, it’s super heartfelt, lots of tears and hugs and Saul telling Robin she’s made it.

It’s just—it’s definitely One Piece at its most emotional. You know, even the whole crew is kind of feeling it. The readers are feeling it. Luffy’s grinning like a proud captain. It’s just a really nice chapter of the manga. If it had ended 2024, I think it would have been a very fitting ending. Yeah, I thought that would have really nailed it with the emotion of it. I know some people were complaining like, “Ah, you know, is that it? blah, blah.” It’s like Robin earned this. Like, stop. Let’s—we don’t have to do that.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, I mean, I’m sure we’ll talk a little bit more about the discourse around fake-out deaths and everything like that. But I think it’s really difficult to argue that there’s—especially with that added flashback, which is always nice to have because it was new content—but also it’s just helpful to have a reminder because Enies Lobby was so long ago in publication. It’s just good to have a reminder to ground us in just how very few times the story has allowed us someone’s flashback to conclude like this, especially for a main character.

Jon Negroni
Couldn’t agree more. And you know what I just noticed too? This is funny. We’re doing three chapters. One ends in three, one ends in four, one ends in five. So literally 2023, 2024, and the year 2025 is where we’ve been. Too weird, not quite. I don’t know. Okay, so then on to chapter 1134. And oh, I forgot to say that the name of chapter 1133 is “Nice Things.” And then the name of chapter 1134 is…

Travis Hymas
“The Owl Library.”

Jon Negroni
Yes, “The Owl Library.” So yeah, this chapter, you know, this chapter also has some emotion to it, a lot of lore and world-building too. So Luffy thanks Saul for helping Robin. There’s like a kind of goofy yakuza vibe thing going on with Luffy that I enjoyed. Robin calls the Straw Hats her true friends, leaving most of the crew sobbing again except for, I think, Zoro and Jinbe, who are the only ones who aren’t crying.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, that’s fair.

Jon Negroni
Saul apologizes for the prank from earlier. He asks Luffy to keep protecting Robin. Obviously, Luffy happily agrees to that. And then meanwhile, Lilith actually drops a pretty huge bombshell—or a briefcase, rather. She’s carrying a perfect Vegapunk clone in a box. This is the fandom complaint that I’m okay with. But yeah, it ties to his secret visit to Elbaf years ago that was mentioned during the Egghead arc.

Travis Hymas
You…

Jon Negroni
And as the crew explores Elbaf a bit more, we learn that the giants have actually become peaceful traders thanks to the influence of King Harold, although Loki’s betrayal has left the country without a ruler for quite some time now. So this has fueled a lot of theories, by the way, that King Harold—well, we’ll get into it—but that King Harold actually was a bad dude who betrayed the island with the world government, but we’ll get into that. Pretty persistent theory at the moment.

Robin and Saul have this very touching moment at the Owl Library where Robin sees the books that Saul saved from Ohara. It brings her to tears. And the chapter ends on a dark note though, as Loki is kind of plotting in the shadows with a character named Mosa, I think it was, and then we also see two hooded figures arrive in one of the castle’s areas on like a summoning circle.

And yeah, it looks like these are two Holy Knights. One of them appears to be the Not Shanks—the man who looks like Shanks. Probably the person we saw during the Reverie arc who confronted the Gorosei and for a long time people speculated that this is maybe Shanks’ evil twin and that Oda is setting the stage for something big with this sort of like other Figureland Garling or not Figureland Garling but Figureland whoever that this might be. I don’t think it’s Shanks’ twin, Travis. Can I just say it?

Travis Hymas
We’ve collectively chosen… I like Figureland Shiv as a good name.

Jon Negroni
I like that too. I think Grand Line Review called him Figureland Frank. I don’t think he’s—I don’t think he’s Shanks’ brother. I don’t think he’s his brother. I don’t think they’re related. You know what I think?

Travis Hymas
Yeah, Frank’s good too. Okay, well, you will have to—we’ll have to dig into that one day. I do want to, but I want to stop you before we open up the can of worms. First off, Shaggy is the translated name for Loki’s contact on the Den Den Mushi, which normally takes the form of its caller, but this is a cold-resistant, voice-activated Den Den Mushi.

Jon Negroni
Okay.

Travis Hymas
Does it—it looks like it’s a, you know, wooly Den Den Mushi, but that might not tell us anything about who he’s talking to, which is a very clever point. And then just before we jump over to the chapter, do you want to talk about the color spread?

Jon Negroni
Yeah, yeah, so we have the color spread at the very beginning. A nice little send-off to the voice actor for Franky.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, Kazuki Yao has retired from the role, which is kind of amazing to think about—not just because this will probably not be the last one to do so, but that Franky as a character was created visually for this voice actor. So it’s a very heartfelt moment. Of course, Oda had to sign off on it. I think it’s great. My favorite part of it, though, is that if you look closely, Luffy’s like about to jump off of Franky’s head.

Jon Negroni
Yeah.

Travis Hymas
And so Nami just very casually has her arm wrapped around his other leg so he doesn’t go falling into the sea. Just good detail as always from Oda there.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, yeah, and Robin even has the new bangs. So we have that kind of, you know, maintained. I appreciate that.

Travis Hymas
I think the bangs are here to stay. I think they’re sticking around.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, Oda finally listened to our hate mail, I suppose. But all right, let’s get into 1135 then. This one’s called “Friend’s Cups.” And so we’ll do a more detailed recap of that. But first, Travis, what do we got for this cover story?

Travis Hymas
Well, as we foreshadowed earlier, there was at least one sucker punch that happened because we are continuing Yamato’s Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage with Tama cold-cocking Holdem in the face with a ninja kick, showing off her training with Shinobu and catching him completely off guard, freeing herself and not needing help from anyone else—which is nice, even though…

You know, this is one of those things that sends power-scaling fans of the series into absolute tiffs of insanity.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, let me—you know what? Hey, let me do my impersonation, in fact, of a One Piece Redditor on the Pirate Folk subreddit. Here we go. This is just Oda doing this again where, you know, you just don’t—like, all of a sudden she can beat a headliner. Does that mean she can beat Basil Hawkins? Oda is like not doing it. Like, Oda’s lost the sauce. Like, nah dude, she just sucker-punched him. She didn’t defeat the dude. Chill. Of course, he’s not expecting her to kick him. We’ve seen this.

Travis Hymas
Hahaha! He’s literally got the surprised eyes like bulging out of his skull like, “What’s happened here?”

Jon Negroni
Yes, and also these are gag characters. Holdem is a joke character. Are you really taking him so seriously? This is a cover story too.

Travis Hymas
I mean, it makes sense for Tama to, after everything that’s happened, be able to free herself from Holdem instead of needing Luffy to do it like at the beginning of Wano. I think this is one of those things. Yeah, it is. It’s one of those things. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yet again, this is a chapter that properly introduces us to another future generation character, right? Another child that Luffy is now inspiring. But like…

Jon Negroni
And it’s a theme of the chapter with Colin.

Travis Hymas
You know, I think people would have less problems with this—and you’re right, they’re just nerds—but the fact that One Piece’s timescale makes about as much sense as nothing does hurt moments like this because realistically, what we’re saying here is that this is more or less, you know, a month at most since they’ve left, since Tama’s been doing this training.

I think that that does skew people’s perception on what’s even possible. Again, this whole thing is not a big deal, not worth even like getting into the weeds about, but I do think if more time was allowed to pass in the story, I feel like these would be a lot easier to ingest for everybody.

Jon Negroni
Just my thing, let’s not forget that these characters also work off of video game logic. Think of Otama—like, she got a huge EXP boost after… like, think Pokémon when you have like the one character in your party who almost fainted all the way down to 1 HP during a battle with the Elite Four. Okay. And yeah, I mean, she went through so much during that arc. I think even—

Travis Hymas
Absolutely. And just like clenched it. Yeah.

Jon Negroni
Even before this like training that she’s done, I think that yeah, she’s a pretty resilient character in her own right. Scrapping by her whole life. It’s not like she’s some kind of pampered, you know, kind of character her whole life. No, like, she was surviving those streets. Got it? So yeah, we defend Tama up in here.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it’s silly to have this kind of reaction. I do think it’s that even now, Tama has been more active in this cover story than Yamato has though. It’s very fun. Like that.

Jon Negroni
That is true. Yeah. That makes sense. We love our little, you know, Beast Tamer. Okay, so let’s get into 1135. This will be a more legit kind of recap. I’ll do my best to be quick about it since we’re already going. Okay, so first up, where do we start actually? Yeah. Okay, so we start at the Owl Library. Chopper and Bonnie are attempting to read one of the giant-sized books. Saul introduces them to Biblo.

We love Biblo. He’s the owl responsible for gigantifying any book that enters his domain thanks to the power of the Iku Iku no Mi. Also, as the official translator puts it, “Grow Grow” Devil Fruit. Lilith deduces this ability while Chopper hopes to find some medical books, only to learn that they are giant-sized, and that makes the studies a bit of a workout. Meanwhile, Luffy’s antics on the swings send him, Usopp, and two giant children soaring, leading to Nami reprimanding him for scaring the kids.

The children try to seek some comfort from Gerd, and then Sanji kind of fumes over a child’s cheeky glance—kind of a callback to Momo. It’s like, “Does every brat do this kind of thing?” Luffy expresses his disappointment in how Elbaf is kind of so peaceful. It’s more peaceful than he expected. But then—and Usopp is kind of like, “Yeah, I get it, but like, let’s chill out. What’s wrong with a little bit of peace? Give peace a chance.”

But then the young giant we have met before, Colin, challenges Luffy, tries to do a little bit of his own sucker punch sneak attack, but the wooden sword he tries to hit Luffy with breaks upon impact. And impressed by Colin’s spirit, his gusto, Luffy responds with his own kind of Gear Third, I think it was—like he just kind of like tries to go for it there. And then it freaks out a bunch of the giant kids. And Ripley actually—we find out is Colin’s mother as well as teacher—

Travis Hymas
Mm-hmm.

Jon Negroni
—scolds him for attacking Luffy but praises his initiative, you know, revealing also that Colin’s father actually is—or I think Colin reveals that his father was a human and a former pirate. So after this, the crew actually splits up. So Luffy’s group returns to the Owl Library where Robin decides to stay longer to converse with Saul during the feast. Lilith and Bonnie head off to obtain resident permits—apparently, maybe, we’ll talk about it. And Franky chooses to study the Treasure Tree, Adam.

Gerd provides some new Elbaf-style clothing to Robin, Franky, Brook, and Jinbe before they part ways, and the rest of the Straw Hats are going to go to the castle at this point—or not the castle, the Western Village. But then we do go to the castle, Aurist Castle near the Western Village, and we see that the two mysterious hooded figures from before, we don’t know where they spawned—it looked like they were near some ruins or something—but it looks like they have gone to this castle next. And they confront a couple of giant guards and they’re demanding to know where Loki is.

So I have a feeling, Travis, if we had talked about this chapter, we probably would have assumed that they were here to get, you know, Luffy, right? Like, yeah, I think we even mentioned that there probably are going to be some shenanigans. People are going to be hunting the Straw Hats because they know they went to Elbaf. But no, they’re actually after Prince Loki. And one of the guards is like, “Yeah, yeah, get out of here, piss off.” One of the Holy Knights—we think they’re a Holy Knight—who has bandages on them, uses some kind of like mysterious attack.

Travis Hymas
Mm-hmm.

Jon Negroni
It’s hard to tell what’s going on. It looks like they’re using bandages to restrain the guard and basically one-shots them and then reiterates that, you know, they’re not asking questions. Like, they’re here to get some answers. So we’ll probably see what happens with that very shortly in the next chapter, most likely. So we go to the Western Village and the Straw Hats are receiving a pretty huge and warm welcome. The giants toast to their victories over Kaido and Big Mom. Luffy actually recognizes Stansen, who recalls their meeting at the human auctioning house during the Sabaody Archipelago arc.

And expresses gratitude for how Luffy freed him. And then the elder Ja Rule, the world’s oldest giant at 408 years old, arrives at the feast riding his VAR. And Luffy notices a sword lodged in his head, and he nonchalantly explains that his helmet saved his life—even though it went through your head. We’ll see how that gag continues to be funny. But yeah, that is how we end the chapter.

It looks like these two figures, who are likely Holy Knights, apparently might have some kind of Gorosei-adjacent abilities. They’re going to be heading right to the Straw Hats because I think after Aurist Castle, they’d have to go to the Western Village to get to the Forest of Doom or whatever it was called where Loki is. And so yeah, big stuff brewing. Travis Hymas, how are we feeling? We’re starting the new year off with finally a little bit of, like, yeah, here are some conflicts that might happen, and we’re going to get some more lore around the sort of…

Travis Hymas
Indeed.

Jon Negroni
…the Holy Dragon, Celestial Dragon—or sorry, Holy Knight/Celestial Dragon/Five Elder power type, because we’ve seen it in Egghead. Now we’re going to see it with two new characters.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, I feel like I should let you get back on your conspiracy theory about Figurine Shiv here since I did have you pause. You don’t think he’s a twin.

Jon Negroni
Too easy, too easy. Here’s what I think happened. I think we’re going to get some God Valley stuff in this arc. And I think that something happened to the real Shanks when he was Figureland What-Have-You, and he was in the treasure chest or whatever, right? We know, of course, that there were Holy Knights or Holy Knights-to-be, including Figureland Garling, in this area. And I think that after this era…

Travis Hymas
Okay.

Jon Negroni
…this kind of very important character who had become Shanks was lost to pirates. Who’s around during this time, Travis Hymas? That’s right, Vegapunk. And what did we just get a whole thing about with Vegapunk? Clones. I think he’s a clone. I think they cloned the son who was taken away. And I don’t think he’s a sibling. I think he’s a legit Shanks clone of the real—or the other way around.

That the treasure chest Shanks is the actual clone. Either way, the big reason is the swords are the same, their faces are the same, like to the point where they have the same facial—there are too many similarities. If they were siblings, even if they were twins, they wouldn’t have the same facial hair. And I get that it could be a whole thing to, like, conceal Shanks, but I think it takes away what’s interesting about Shanks if you give him an evil twin.

If you give him an evil clone, however, then you make it part of the story of, like, they care so little about this corrupted—you know, this kid who’s been corrupted by pirates. No redemption. And I think when we one day get the Shanks backstory, I think there is going to be—when Shanks confronted his family and how he got Griffon. I think there’s going to be a lot of explanation of how that stuff happened that is going to be, frankly, kind of messed up. And so, that’s the sword I’m sticking into the ground.

Travis Hymas
Okay, so… how long ago was God Valley?

Jon Negroni
50 years. Right? About 50? Was it 38? Okay, maybe.

Travis Hymas
Wasn’t it 38? Wasn’t it 38? I want to—I now I have to double-check that because that’s important. That’s, uh, that’s important. Let’s see. Yeah. 38 years.

Jon Negroni
I mean, it makes sense because it would be however old Shanks is. Okay.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, 38 years was God Valley. Stussy was created at MADS 36 years ago. And she’s the first successful clone that MADS made. Now I want to…

Jon Negroni
This is why the clone thing still makes sense, though, because he could have been cloned after the fact. He could have been cloned at a—

Travis Hymas
You know, that’s what I’m saying is we do have—we have a lineup here, right? We have these things, you know, kind of near each other.

Jon Negroni
I’m not saying the clone would have started as a baby. We don’t know that that’s the case. I think that he cloned Vegapunk cloned it, like, sometime more when Shanks was a little bit older, maybe during Roger’s time.

Travis Hymas
So what I’m saying is that this might not be a Vegapunk thing, this may be a Jay Garcia Saturn thing.

Jon Negroni
He doesn’t have that technology though. Or do you think it could be like some evil occultist thing?

Travis Hymas
I think it could be, or it could—I mean, if we want to go into the cloning thing, it’s clear that there is at least some advanced technology that existed prior to Vegapunk’s discovery of it. So even just the understanding that cloning is possible could be something that comes from that period of time, or it could be something that Vegapunk itself has discovered. Debatable nonetheless. It would—if he’s a—if he’s not a twin…

The resemblance either has to be familial—like they could just be family members. It is possible that just he’s younger than Shanks. They had another kid after Shanks was lost in the incident. And so he’s a younger brother. I think that’s feasible. I don’t want to shoot down the clone theory, but I do think that this is more of a—this is probably not something that Vegapunk just did kind of thing. I think that this is more of a project situation if it is the cloning thing.

Travis Hymas
The only thing that I can really say about him specifically is I think at this point we have to at least entertain the idea that—who, you know, a few things. Number one, there are three men we’re talking about here. There’s not two men we’re talking about here. Like, “Evil Shanks” is probably donezo, right? Like, Oda’s being very coy. We can’t see how many arms this guy has, or we can’t see the scar. So this is—but it’s probably not Shanks, right? And then we have Figureland Garling, and then we have the man himself, Shanks, and it’s pretty clear that these are three different people occupying, you know, time. So…

When we have things years and years ago where Whitebeard says, “I look at you and my scar aches,” that’s probably Garling from God Valley, right? That seems pretty—I think we can lock that in. When we see Shanks talking to the Gorosei at the Reverie, that’s probably not Shanks at this point. That’s probably Shiv, or whatever we’ve decided to call him. That makes more sense, and that’s probably the first time we’ve actually seen him. His pose is identical—not to say that Oda didn’t redraw it, I don’t want him to take offense to that—but, you know, it’s the same pose so that we don’t immediately clock that it’s not Shanks.

Like, we’re supposed to be questioning this. But it does—I do think that they’re three people. I don’t think this is a situation where like the two Shankses—whatever they are—are like collaborating. Like, this is not the solution to how Shanks got to Marineford as quickly as he did, for example. I don’t think that it’s necessarily the answer to everything, that he’s here, whether it’s cloning or anything else.

But I do think that this is a very clever way to give us “Luffy meets Shanks” without ever having to actually do “Luffy meets Shanks.” And then Blackbeard could go kill him or something.

Jon Negroni
So all that said, I do want to bring up the—because this is related to Shanks—the whole thing of how the giants are all peaceful now, right? They haven’t had a ruler in six years, and there’s this feeling of complacency, right? Of how Hajrudin is like, “Well, Hajrudin is the last generation where they were really trained up and everything.” And I wonder if there’s going to be some explanation of like, they’ve been complacent, they haven’t had a king, maybe because Shanks has kind of been protecting Elbaf for some time.

Travis Hymas
Ooh, ooh, I have… Yeah, woke Elbaf.

Jon Negroni
And it feels like, at least to them, like they don’t really need a king right now, or they can’t agree on it. Maybe we’ll get an explanation for what the issue is. Loki doesn’t want to do it. Loki is like Loki evil, apparently. But there’s been a lot of chatter. I know people have likened Loki to being like a Jaime Lannister by way of Game of Thrones type of villain, in the sense that he’s misunderstood, literally killed a king but for the right reasons. And that could explain, well, how in the world is there a summoning circle in Elbaf?

How was that even possible? It has to be something that would absolutely—like, what is causing this now, I guess. And I’ve seen a lot of speculation about this. I think it was Grand Line Review who brought this up: Maybe they could have done this for a while and King Harold, you know, because it’s teased here that he opened up kind of trade with the world government—they’ve notoriously been more closed off, which is a big reason why they probably don’t know much about the Void Century even.

So all that to say, I think that if King Harold had been cozying up to the world government and was on the brink of selling them out or maybe even giving them the legendary Devil Fruit… I think that’s where it comes down to things because I think that if—I think that’s what these two were after. I think some people have posited that that must be why they’re here because now that Luffy has shown the Sun God Fruit and has just made a mockery of the Gorosei by standing up to Saturn and was able to hold him off and was able to inspire…

Travis Hymas
Mm-hmm.

Jon Negroni
…you know, the giants and was able to inspire another person to show the Nika Fruit, I think—I think the Gorosei are desperate and I think they’re looking for another legendary Devil Fruit that might be related to this. And that’s where Loki is going to kind of come in because he has this fruit, apparently. And that’s why they want to hunt him down now of all times. And why he—that’s the priority versus, like, all right, they probably know that they’re not going to be able to just stop Luffy like this.

Like, if they come after Luffy, so what? The whole—all the Straw Hat Pirates, like, they’re spread—the world government spreads you thin and tries something like that. But Loki is imprisoned. They can get that fruit, and they can probably find a way to feed it to somebody that they wanted. Who they would give the fruit to, I don’t actually even know. Because the sense that we’re getting is that the Holy Knights are—they have their own thing going on where the Celestial Dragons kind of have a taboo against Devil Fruits because they’re, you know, gods and holy and all that stuff. So they have these special evil Gorosei powers, apparently.

So yeah, that’s a roundabout way of saying I think that’s where this conflict is going to head next. I think that’s the kind of thing that Luffy probably has more context on via his conversation with Loki, and Loki kind of puts on this villain front, but ultimately I think he’s going to be pretty sympathetic.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, I think we floated before the idea that Loki is probably not just like a bald-faced bad guy, right? Like doing the MCU thing where, you know, eventually it turns out he’s doing another bit. I don’t know that I’m completely married to the idea that like he killed his father because he discovered something and he’s trying to like protect Elbaf. Mostly because he’s trying to get out. I think if this was something where he was doing like the big martyr thing…

Jon Negroni
Yes.

Travis Hymas
…he would not be trying to break free of that, if that makes sense. So I want to say that that’s not necessarily compelling for me, but the idea that the summoning circles are like waypoints that you can set is kind of an interesting idea because it does open up the idea that they necessarily can’t teleport anywhere they want to, which answers that question of why don’t they just do that all the time. But…

Jon Negroni
Right.

Travis Hymas
I don’t know. I feel like there’s still like a twist that we’re missing, I guess, is where I’m stuck. Because yeah, there’s one more twist that I think we’re sitting on. And that probably is what was the king’s agenda because, you know, we have woke Elbaf now. Elbaf is—it truly is gone woke. It no longer does violence, right? Giants are marrying humans…

Jon Negroni
What’s next?

Travis Hymas
…and we’ll talk about that because, boy, am I confused about how biology works now. Good thing we have a biology teacher around.

Jon Negroni
What’s next? Straw hat giants?

Travis Hymas
Maybe. Maybe. I mean, look at her, man. Come on. But it does beg the question of who in the hell—I think we all know who it must be in that it’s the guy with the hat. Well, it’s the guy with the hat, right? Whoever that guy is, it’s that guy, right? Yeah, it’s gotta be.

Jon Negroni
There are two top candidates.

Travis Hymas
Visually, the silhouette fits. And then I think the consensus right now is that it’s either Golden Lion Shiki or Scopper Gabon. And if it’s not one of them, most people have it in their heads that it’s going to be either a member of the Roger Pirates or a member of the Rocks Pirates. It’s tricky, though. So there have been some folks who’ve said that, well, Ripley, based on what we know about her so far, she’s not that old. She might be in between 80 to 100 because she’s around Hajrudin’s generation, right?

Jon Negroni
Yeah, close to Hajrudin’s generation. Yeah.

Travis Hymas
So—and she says that the person who she’s, like, not married to—her, like, common-law husband—is much younger than her. That said, the official translation—I’ll double-check it because I think it’s a little bit less clear about that, right? Where it’s kind of…

Jon Negroni
Yeah. He’s a younger man.

Travis Hymas
He’s a younger man. She’s messing with Sanji is what she’s doing. Like, there’s a little heart added to it and everything, which is great. He deserves it, but, you know, it doesn’t help us.

Jon Negroni
Right. And she says that he keeps sulking that he’s the only one who ages. So—and then, yeah, that’s more the thing. So technically, Scopper Gabon would probably be in his 70s, so he would be younger, but not like—not a huge age gap. And it’s more about the fact that, like, yeah, one of them is getting older, the other isn’t. So that could make sense. That could fit with Scopper Gabon. Shiki is a different story because I think Shiki would be pretty similar. Like, I think Shiki is around 80, right? I’ll double-check that.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, something like that. And like, I still don’t know how I feel about Shiki in general being… Well, he’s canon, but here and like active in the story? I don’t know how I feel about that still, about trying to, like, square that circle. It feels way too messy to be worth doing.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, I hear you. I don’t know. I don’t know. I think that I like these—so if I had to pick somebody who I think I would prefer, I think Shiki honestly, I think, would be a more fun character to have in the mix, to have him in the canon officially. And I think that the profile, the silhouette, like it seems to match better—the hat, hiding the steering wheel, all that stuff. With Gabon, it still makes a ton of sense, you know, because it’s Gabon.

You know, we need some kind of checkpoint of like, where’s our, you know, where’s our Roger Pirate at this part of the Grand Line, this part of the New World? We haven’t seen one yet. So that would make sense, I guess, but I don’t know. Something about it being Shiki kind of—it makes me laugh, you know? I just feel like it fits, but I don’t know. I don’t want to say that it has to be him.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, it’s one of those things where that’s as far as I’ve gotten: we have the silhouette with the hat and everything. That seems to be the only realistic candidate because Colin’s father hasn’t left. We know that. The basket has something for him as well. He’s on the island. We only have that one other candidate. But I also…

I mean, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to be a Roger Pirate or it has to be from that generation. There is technically a generation in between Roger’s era and the current era, right? You know, we have not only people like Cavendish, who came in like a year before the Worst Generation reached Sabaody, but you know, technically your buggies and Shanks are their own generation, right? Like, we do have a period of time there where…

Jon Negroni
The silent generation.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, like a silent generation, basically, that technically exists in this space but hasn’t been super explored because half of them have had their teeth kicked in by Luffy. So it’s one of those things where, you know, is this somebody else from the Rocks crew, like somebody else younger? Is this—I mean, it’s really hard to pin down. Like, are we going to get Douglas Bullet in canon? Is that, like… technically that’s as viable as Shiki right now if we’re guessing Roger Pirates and Rocks Pirates. But…

It’s still—it’s still—yeah, could be Silver Axe. I doubt it’s Wang Zhi, but it could be. Like, think of a slightly older pirate that we’ve heard of at all, and that technically fits the bill, right? So it’s—I’m almost expecting it to be someone we’ve never heard of because that’s almost the funniest outcome at this point, and that’s Oda’s favorite thing to do.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, it’s usually how it goes.

Travis Hymas
That is how it goes. It would be very funny, though. I get a good laugh out of that.

Jon Negroni
Well, we may find out soon. We might get—you know, it might be a couple of chapters, though, who knows. I have a feeling that we might have a big thing with the Holy Knights trying to get to Loki, and then maybe this character shows up and kind of foils them or something. Who knows. But okay, so there is the panel that ended an agenda, as some claim. Some claim. That’s the rumor. Anyway, look, I get it. There’s the panel where…

Travis Hymas
Hahaha.

Jon Negroni
…Lilith is like, “Don’t worry about me, I’ve got to go ask for permission to put down roots here.” And then Bonnie says, “Me too,” in the context of, you know, she’s going to go with Lilith, right? You could look at this a few ways—that she’s going to go with Lilith and that she might be looking for a way for Kuma to live here peacefully. That doesn’t mean that she’s going to be staying here, Travis. That doesn’t mean that she’s going to be staying here. It doesn’t mean…

Travis Hymas
She’s a child. She doesn’t get to make these decisions. And besides, we gotta put a pin on that now because it’s going to be relevant later. Come on. Her staying on Elbaf? Come on.

Jon Negroni
I don’t see it. No. No.

Travis Hymas
So, okay, so I will entertain the impending doom that is being set up here, right? We got the big emotional catharsis, which we haven’t really talked about with Robin and Saul, but I think it is worth stressing that we do not get many of these just whole emotional victories. And while it has been a tearjerker and everything…

It’s really been too easy, hasn’t it? I think we’ve been saying this for a while. Like, even getting to Elbaf felt kind of like a breeze once we actually got off of Egghead. So the longer this goes where, you know, we’re in a place where we’re—the Straw Hats are welcomed and they’re heroes and there doesn’t really seem to be an intrinsic conflict, and an old character that we know is hanging out here, and we may get to see a new Roger Pirate or something, right?

Jon Negroni
Mm-hmm.

Travis Hymas
Something bad is about to happen, and I don’t think it’s bad in the normal, “there’s a bad guy subjugating the land,” or “a pirate causing problems,” or even just “these Holy Knights show up to start a fight.” I think something actually really bad is going to happen in large part because it didn’t happen on Egghead, and we were kind of expecting it to happen on Egghead. There does have to be a moment where we get lower, right? Like, things have to get…

Jon Negroni
Mm-hmm.

Travis Hymas
…serious. We have the threats of, like, oceans rising and everything and the stuff that might happen later on towards the end of the story. But right now, the Straw Hats are riding pretty high. You know, they’re on top of the world. We’ve technically—we’ve technically achieved one of the crew members’ dreams. You know, we’re—that’s kind of wild to think about too. If you consider the fact that Robin now finally has book access to the library of Ohara…I mean, that’s huge.

But that also means this would be a great place to burn down. You know what I mean? Not necessarily time skip, but just… gee, it sure would be a shame if this library that’s in a tree, like, I don’t know, catches fire, wouldn’t it? That’d be a shame. It would be—sure would, sure would suck if there was somebody like really proficient with swords that could, you know, cut through that clone box that just absolutely can’t be opened until, you know, a whole lab gets set up. You know what I mean?

Like, gee, you know, it sure would be a shame if these Holy Knights found out that there was a Vegapunk satellite that got away. I wonder if people would have a take on that. You know, like, there’s a bunch of little Jenga bricks, narratively, that we’re building up here that I feel like Oda is just waiting until the opportune moment to…

Jon Negroni
…pull out the load-bearing block. Like, something bad is about to happen. And whatever these plans are, I do think that they’re not going to happen the way that they’re expected to right now. That having been said, I do think that as things stand right now, it doesn’t look like Bonnie has an interest in joining the crew or even really going further on her adventure.

It really does seem like having the potential of getting Kuma back is, you know, kind of a tie-off to her story—or at least that’s how Oda is framing it. So something really is going to have to change to propel that forward. I don’t know what that is.

Travis Hymas
Like if there isn’t that anymore—if that potential is lost somehow—that would probably do it.

Jon Negroni
Like if Kuma dies. Well, he…

Travis Hymas
Well, if, yeah, like if there is this whole thing where maybe we do have a revelation that time moves slower here, and so we get a time skip that’s only maybe a few days in the real world while it’s a few months on this island. And that would explain a few things, like the six years that Loki… you know, apparently it’s been six years or whatever. But then also, what was I going to say…

Jon Negroni
…just the idea that, you know, for them to have some time on this island to kind of train up a little bit, for Franky to study the tree, Robin to have some real time, you know, getting back into the library more than just like a couple hours. The Straw Hats all have something to do here. You know, Chopper can level up with his medical books. Nami can learn about the weird climate. Usopp can have his kind of “brave warrior of the sea” moment. Like, we would have time to breathe here.

And then you would also have Bonnie and Kuma spending some real time together. And then as the lab is getting set up and all this stuff, and we could get a couple chapters just montaging some of this—and Luffy potentially, like, learning how to master his Devil Fruit because he’s in the place where he can do that. And then ultimately finding out why you shouldn’t overstay your welcome in Elbaf. Maybe there’s a reason with a downside, a bad effect, an aftereffect to being here for too long that could be explained. Or, you know, that you feel like you never want to leave—it’s going to stop your adventure because Elbaf is just so big, there’s so much to explore. But, you know, finally you have to kind of go home and leave.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, it’s, again, like, all of this is supposed to happen very, very quickly. And it does feel a little hectic quite a bit when you actually sit down and think about how time passes in the series. And most of the time, I pretty much actively just block it out of my mind and just don’t engage with it very often. And that would help, I think—letting the world kind of go to crap further and then kind of spit us out into the middle of that.

And Oda’s Jump Festa message does seem to indicate that we will check in outside of Elbaf because… potentially very soon, kind of Egghead-style, which will be nice. It really does feel like we’re over and done with decks of the world and stuff. But in any case, if there is a situation where, like, staying put is going to happen, I don’t think it’s going to be by choice. Because that’s just not a Luffy decision.

Let’s be honest, if it turns out they’re like, “We have to leave now or we’re not going to be able to leave for X amount of time,” Luffy’s going to choose, “Okay, we gotta go now then, because I gotta go see the next cool thing.” He’s too impatient.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, but I could see it. I mean, I could see, like, similar to the Saiyan Saga, if these, like, two Holy Knights just kind of wreck them, and the only reason they don’t lose is because the Scopper Gabon character saves them. And Luffy is, like, humbled, you know, kind of in the same way he was after Marineford, of like, “I need to learn how to unlock how to really, like, deal with this power, because if I don’t, then I’m not going to be able to progress any farther.”

I could see that as a motivating factor. There’s another thing too—we don’t really have time to go through all the comments, but there was a comment from CypherJ I wanted to bring up where they brought up that with Biblo’s ability—or Biblo, however you want to say it—that they could use it potentially on ships. Like, not just the Sunny, like ships in general, like with the Noah, which means that you could essentially save people by creating enough ships that would carry people above water. And so—and then there’s also the fact that this island is so high…

Travis Hymas
Hmm, interesting.

Jon Negroni
…that people would have some kind of sanctuary. And if that was the thing, like, if the Straw Hats finally find out what’s going on in the rest of the world with the news of the world and all that stuff, that would also be another motivating factor of like, oh, we’re on, like, a countdown. We need—on this island, though, we have a means, essentially, of creating a bunch of ships with Franky’s help that could save people. I don’t know, I mean, it’s…

Travis Hymas
That’s—you know, this is one of those things that, again, I feel like has been hovering over the story for a long time and we’re eventually going to have to deal with. How does Luffy save the world exactly? Like, we understand that, like, at this point, we’re kind of, like, lining the dots up to, like, you know, do things like overthrow the world government, bring it down to the world. But we have to do that without, at any point, Luffy feeling obligated to do so, right? Because he’s not going to do that. It’s not his…

Jon Negroni
He’s going to train if somebody’s like, “And Luffy, you’re the one who’s gonna have to punch these characters. The only way to do that is you have to learn this.” Because it’s like with Ryou—he had to have a training arc for Ryou.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, well, even that—even that—right, right. But he was all—like, he had his motivations to do that, though, that took the form of not, “I am a hero. I’m here to save this country.” It’s, “I, you know, I want to take down Kaido to further my agenda.” And then, we are here now. And here’s this one kid who’s not eating, and I don’t like that because I like this kid. This kid’s nice. You know, like, again, it’s that reminder that, like, Luffy operates—Oda reinforced this recently in that Netflix interview.

Jon Negroni
Right, exactly.

Travis Hymas
…as well, that, like, Luffy is kind of this just ultimate child. There has to be an element of personal satisfaction. You mentioned it yourself. Luffy has no problems stepping up and helping people, provided that they are willing to help themselves. They’re not going to become dependent or anything on him. His view of strength has a lot more to do with motivation and intent, I think, than it does with actual power. But that does kind of dispense him into being someone who’s not going to be like…

“Well, we need to rally the troops into, like, the Commander Shepard thing of taking the fight back to whatever and kind of being, like, this war hero or leader or anything.” Like, there are other characters who I feel are going to fill those roles. I think that’s why Oda just could not commit to killing Vegapunk at this point in any way, shape, or form. Good lord. Because that’s something that, like, a Vegapunk needs to be on hand for even more than, like, a Franky or anything. I like the idea of, like…

“Well, maybe, you know, maybe these certain little aspects can come together to execute different kinds of plans or anything.” But at the end of the day, like, Luffy’s place in this is going to be seeing all of these obstacles that are coming together through these world events. And he’s going to be like, “This is in the way of me getting to the place where the treasure is. And I need the treasure to go do the really dumb child thing that I want to do. So at that point, I’m going to make that everybody’s problem.”

But there’s not going to be a point in this big final war that everybody has got their eyes on where Luffy rallies a bunch of pirate crews like some sort of war hero. This isn’t Naruto. That’s not going to happen. So we do have to get there in some kind of roundabout way. You know what I mean?

Jon Negroni
So then why?

Travis Hymas
Okay.

Jon Negroni
Well, then let’s play with that. What if we find out it ties into the Road Poneglyph, the man marked by flames? We learn something about that character here that would essentially put Luffy on that path of, like, “Here’s how you get to the One Piece. We need this.” And it could be a whole list of things, but it could just be like, “We need to wait here,” or something like that. Or, “You need to learn this, you know, how to deal with this, because the man marked by flames…”

Travis Hymas
Okay.

Jon Negroni
…has the same powers as this Holy Knight that you couldn’t do anything against.” And Luffy’s like, “Huh.” It’s kind of like with Kaido—he had to learn a new move. He’s like, “How am I going to do that?” Well, maybe this silhouetted character, who could be whoever, is like, “I’ll teach you how to do it. It’s going to take a few weeks or a month or whatever it is.” And then that’s when you have the Straw Hats doing their thing. Again, there’s so many ways—there’s so many options. I would feel very, very at peace with some downtime.

And I think we could work it out in a way that matches Luffy’s characterization, to your point. So we’ll have to wait and see. I think that we could both be wrong, you know? It could just be something not even close to either thing that’s been suggested so far. I do want to end, though, on Ja Rule. He does end the chapter, and there was some chatter about this character. First of all, the sword-through-the-head gag is great. But there’s some chatter about this, of, like, people being like, “How come, you know, if he was alive during Noland’s age, right?”

So like, we have characters on this island who theoretically—judging by their lifespans—they know about Nika, so that kind of history has made it. But why is the Void Century so mysterious? And is that going to be something that is going to fill in some blanks for Robin as she reconvenes with Saul? In the sense that, like, there are things that the giants can just tell us that maybe they don’t have the whole picture, but they could at least give us a sense of what was going on in the Void Century.

That also is going to help close the gap to eventually figuring out things like Lodestar and Laugh Tale. I want to know.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, it is interesting because, basically, there’s this sense that Robin probably knows, has very clearly put together, that all of these things do have to go together. Like, figuring out the Void Century is going to tie directly into finding the One Piece, because the Poneglyphs themselves, of course, but also just, you know, Roger was chasing them. So there’s that obvious giveaway all the way back at Skypiea that this was going to be—that these things were all going to tie together.

But we haven’t necessarily pinned down the smoking gun in this timeline, right? We know because we saw the Roger flashback through Oden’s journal. But like, it would help to get these characters on the same page as us.

Jon Negroni
Right, how did Roger get this information? Maybe he got it from the giants. Maybe the whole idea of how to find this island, its existence, the Poneglyphs—maybe the giants are the ones who know about it because they’re the only ones who have enough of a lifespan to kind of pass this stuff down accurately. Yeah, we could get some—and that could tie in Scopper Gabon pretty nicely, actually, in that sense, because that means that he had some real time here. He put down his roots, he got his residential permit, and what have you.

I do think, though…

Travis Hymas
You know, I’ve flirted with the idea that Rocks D. Xebec is the one who tipped off Roger to that, but, you know, we don’t know for sure. We really don’t. Like, he did figure it out, though. He got to Lodestar and figured it out. But it’s not like Lodestar holds a bunch of information, right? That seems unlikely.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, yeah, that’s fair. Yeah, we still don’t totally understand its role anyway. But yeah, and then I have a feeling—this is a roundabout way of getting to Ja Rule having the sword through the head—that that’s going to play into his memory acting up and not being able to tell the characters anything. Like, so wait, Ja Rule—with Usopp being like, “So you know about Noland, you know about what happened?” And he’s like…

Travis Hymas
That’s good.

Jon Negroni
…he’s like, “What?” And then he has to, like, adjust the sword, and then he remembers what he had for breakfast. And then, like, he adjusts the sword again, and he forgets his name. Like, that kind of thing.

Travis Hymas
Oh my goodness, that would be… That is how it would be. It would be very funny, though. I’d get a good laugh out of that.

Jon Negroni
Anything else, Trav, before we say goodbye and sail away?

Travis Hymas
I do want to—yeah. I think I struggled a little bit with the Holy Knights at first because it was really hard—you mentioned it already in the recap—but it’s really hard to tell what that one knight does, like, to that giant outside the throne room, right?

Jon Negroni
I like these Holy Knights. If they are Holy Knights, I mean, they seem dangerous.

Travis Hymas
It feels kind of like the yokai powers, where it’s something psychological or psychic, you know, like, reminds me of the head-exploding thing, but a different version of it.

Jon Negroni
It looks like he has bandages on that he didn’t have on before. Yeah.

Travis Hymas
Yeah. And then, like, I’m looking at it even right now. And I can see the bandages, or yeah, like, yeah, like wrapping, but it’s really hard to tell if the bandages themselves are the attack, or if there’s some sort of connection. And again, like, it’s supposed to be—it’s supposed to be like, “What’s their power? That’s interesting.” But…

Jon Negroni
It’s kind of unclear.

Travis Hymas
Yeah, we’ve gone a whole arc now with just not having that explained—like, how much of this works. And it’s like, the mystery has got to at least be perceptible. You know what I mean? That’s kind of a rough choreography going on there. And I just—if you know what’s going on, let us know in the comments, because I barely do.

Jon Negroni
Yeah, I didn’t see a lot of comments that were going beyond our speculation. I feel like most people—because I snuck a peek at the comments on Reddit and what people have been talking about in various spaces, YouTube and all that. And it just seems like everybody’s talking about Colin and the whole, like, a giant and a human, you know, and this day and age, Elbaf is not the same as when I was growing up. That kind of thing.

Travis Hymas
It’s gone woke!

Jon Negroni
So yeah, and I’ll double-check, but I do believe we have a break. No… yeah. Yeah, we do, we do. So yeah, we’re not getting another chapter for two weeks. So we’ll have some free time here on Rookie Pirate Radio this January. I’m going to be doing Sundance toward the end of the month, though, so it’s going to be a little tricky how we’re going to be doing things, Travis. I will be landing in Salt Lake City, so thanks again for letting me stay with you the entire time, which I have not asked you to do, and I’m just joking about, obviously. But…

Travis Hymas
Haha, well…

Jon Negroni
Yes, no, I’ll be in Park City, of course, for the actual festival. But I will be passing through. And of course, you know, as we have a couple of weeks, we do have time to do other things. There are a lot of other anime—other anime, sorry. There are a lot of anime, because we’re not talking about anime right now, that have been hitting, the stuff that maybe Travis and I could do a whole thing about. Dandadan comes to mind because I finally…


Jon Negroni
…been ripping through that. And I know Apothecary Diaries, the new season’s coming out, and while I was sick, I watched the entire first season of Apothecary Diaries, and as Ally Johnson predicted, I loved it unconditionally. So…

Travis Hymas
Yeah, you know, on that note, I think it was just yesterday in a Discord message to me, Ally said—let me quote it, she’ll be mad if I slander her and not quote it correctly. Let’s see, gotta get through all my gushing about Akane Banashi. Read that, though. But yeah, “The first candidate for a Jon anime has been watched, so…”

Jon Negroni
There you go.

Travis Hymas
The new season’s bringing new things for you. A Jon-anime.

Jon Negroni
Jon-anime, as it were. I can’t wait to find out what it is. You know me, I’m open-minded. So, all right. Well, thank you so much to everybody who’s been listening to the show. We’ll be back hopefully soon. If you have your own requests, of course, of what you would like us to cover, don’t hesitate. You can always email us at rookiepirateradio@gmail.com or hang out with us in Discord, as usual. But we’ll see you on the next voyage. For now, goodbye.

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